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look at what the obama administration is doing right now it's not that many believe could different than what the bush administration did in the two terms especially at the end and given that there is that consensus that's one of the reasons they are not issued in the political campaign but i think it's also one of the reasons why things are in the national security area. >> this will be the last security to that question. >> i think a lot will depend on who the next president is, because i think that there will be several justices who are getting older but i think most of them would feel if they are voluntarily retiring and not forced to do so by health concerns or some other extenuating circumstances the honorable thing to do would be retiring during the term of the party that appointed you in the first place so you could see justice ginsburg now that she's accomplished. i think she's trying to make a record for how long she's on the court and she will accomplish that in 2014. you may see scalia or kennedy retire if they get president romney. it makes a huge potential shift in the cour
look at what the obama administration is doing right now it's not that many believe could different than what the bush administration did in the two terms especially at the end and given that there is that consensus that's one of the reasons they are not issued in the political campaign but i think it's also one of the reasons why things are in the national security area. >> this will be the last security to that question. >> i think a lot will depend on who the next president is,...
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we can't afford four more years of barack obama. we are not going to have four more years of barack obama. >> earlier this week afghanistan president hamid karzai spoke of the united nations general assembly. he talked about the progress of the afghan security forces and the continued violence in syria. this is 15 minutes. mr. president, ladies and gentlemen, as we speak today, the world is shaken by the fanatics who have committed acts against the face of over 1.5 billion muslims. we strongly condemn these offensive facts whether it is the production of the film, the publication of cartoons or indeed any other act of unsold and provocation. such acts can never be justified in a speech of expression. equally they cannot give a reason for the protest to be used to fight violence with terrible losses of innocent lives is a matter of concern the world remains by the occurrence of the violence, he tried and injustice. in particular, the phobia is a phenomena has coexistence among the cultures and civilizations. i call upon the leaders i
we can't afford four more years of barack obama. we are not going to have four more years of barack obama. >> earlier this week afghanistan president hamid karzai spoke of the united nations general assembly. he talked about the progress of the afghan security forces and the continued violence in syria. this is 15 minutes. mr. president, ladies and gentlemen, as we speak today, the world is shaken by the fanatics who have committed acts against the face of over 1.5 billion muslims. we...
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we're not going to have four more years of barack obama. >> wednesday, president obama and mitt romney meet in the first presidential debate. the news our jim lehrer moderates. watch and engage with c-span including our live to be preachy at 7 p.m. eastern. the debate at night and post debate, your reaction, calls e-mails and tweets. fall live coverage on c-span, c-span radio and online at c-span.org. spent up next, white house officials in charge of cybersecurity speak about the growing concern over counterfeit computer parts and software. they spoke at the potomac institute on computer network threats posed by a foldable supply chain. this is about two hours. >> ladies and gentlemen, if i could have your attention, please. minus michael swetnam and on michael swetnam and ceo of the potomac institute for policy studies, and it's my distinct honor and courage to welcome you here today for a seminar on supply chain threat of cyber issue that we have been discussing in and around washington for quite some time. the potomac institute, for those of you have not been here before, is a scien
we're not going to have four more years of barack obama. >> wednesday, president obama and mitt romney meet in the first presidential debate. the news our jim lehrer moderates. watch and engage with c-span including our live to be preachy at 7 p.m. eastern. the debate at night and post debate, your reaction, calls e-mails and tweets. fall live coverage on c-span, c-span radio and online at c-span.org. spent up next, white house officials in charge of cybersecurity speak about the growing...
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president obama and governor mitt romney both campaign today in virginia. [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] >> acquit programming note for you. the campaign 2012 coverage continues tonight with a debate between candidates for u.s. senate in nevada. republican dean heller is against democratic congresswoman shelley berkley. that gets underway at 11 p.m. eastern live on c-span. from this morning's washington journal here is a preview of that nv said senate race. >> the on call editor. tonight the first of the series of debates in nevada between two people come incumbent senator dean heller and the republican and his challenger representative shelley berkley, the democrat. what does each person have to achieve tonight in the first debate? >> this race has been very close over the year at this point, and the polls have shown this week the republican poll shows that dean heller was up a few points and then the democratic poll shows shelley berkley was up a few points and most basically show at -- a tie. both need to break out a little bit. from
president obama and governor mitt romney both campaign today in virginia. [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] >> acquit programming note for you. the campaign 2012 coverage continues tonight with a debate between candidates for u.s. senate in nevada. republican dean heller is against democratic congresswoman shelley berkley. that gets underway at 11 p.m. eastern live on c-span. from this morning's washington journal here is a preview of that nv said senate race. >>...
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certainly, you mentioned obama's outreach, and i think he did find an outreach. when he did, nancy pelosi said no, we won the election. it is kind of you know, it's kind of hard. some people are saying totally outrageous and nasty things. what we have to do is break it down where people like that can sit down together and say, what is good for the country and not how i can score political points. .. so, i agree with you. i think we need to get past that. we need to get past government is a problem in some areas. government is the solution in seven areas. >> thank you. >> at evening, steve. >> and steve hammock in the chair of constitution project. and you have two ideas in here which i want to talk about because they both appear to me to be unconstitutional. last night the first is that you say we should allow campaign constitutions only from a candidate whose constituents, nobody else. >> i didn't quite say that, but go ahead. >> actually give me a copy of this chat there. and then you say we would be well served by a broad mandate and that for purposes of campa
certainly, you mentioned obama's outreach, and i think he did find an outreach. when he did, nancy pelosi said no, we won the election. it is kind of you know, it's kind of hard. some people are saying totally outrageous and nasty things. what we have to do is break it down where people like that can sit down together and say, what is good for the country and not how i can score political points. .. so, i agree with you. i think we need to get past that. we need to get past government is a...
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obama. if you would just follow my policies, these presidents have all said, not only what you get out of the current economic mess but, pregnant pause, we will thereby make sure this kind of economic crash does not afflict her children. every president has promised that no president has yet delivered on that promise. everyone has failed. we can't control it. the monetary policy commences for policy, federal reserve, seamless program. we were supposed to have this crisis. what moore had made to reduce jicama were told by mr. bush advisers that he was just in the housing market subprime mortgage would all work out. they regularly told us the federal reserve has just such on the quantitative easing program number three. the reason they pump money for the third time is because the first two didn't work you did recently had to to have multiple stimuli was because they didn't work. so it is a very unstable system. it is not clear what that is about, except that it's very deep, built-in and the re
obama. if you would just follow my policies, these presidents have all said, not only what you get out of the current economic mess but, pregnant pause, we will thereby make sure this kind of economic crash does not afflict her children. every president has promised that no president has yet delivered on that promise. everyone has failed. we can't control it. the monetary policy commences for policy, federal reserve, seamless program. we were supposed to have this crisis. what moore had made to...
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that they commitments to $7.33 trillioof national debt added under the pelosi-obama air. i'm glad to know that i have more power than both of them put together and i'm responsible for this deficit spending. [cheers and applause] >> can you put that increase in the national debt just on barack obama and nancy pelosi alone? vilsack: could you repeat that? >> moderator: can you put that increase on the national debt on barack obama and nancy pelosi alone? vilsack: heavens no. congressman king is been in congress for 10 years and hasn't gotten the job done. and so i think the answer is really, it's really important to create jobs in this country and i'm really focused on doing that in this district. so, you know, i have a plan to make sure that i convince landowners to pass their land from one generation to the next. and help young farmers to get started. one of the most important things we could we doing right now, which congress hasn't done is passed a farm bill. it for thank you. that your time. our next question for panelists comes from -- [applause] -- our next question
that they commitments to $7.33 trillioof national debt added under the pelosi-obama air. i'm glad to know that i have more power than both of them put together and i'm responsible for this deficit spending. [cheers and applause] >> can you put that increase in the national debt just on barack obama and nancy pelosi alone? vilsack: could you repeat that? >> moderator: can you put that increase on the national debt on barack obama and nancy pelosi alone? vilsack: heavens no....
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it is fundamentally different from the approach of president obama. i think health care reform should expand markets, expand competition and empower consumers and patients and disempower government bureaucrats from second- guessing the decisions that are made between a patient and a doctor. what does that mean specifically? the three reforms a think would be most important would be, number one, allowing people to purchase health insurance across state lines. why is that? because that would create a true 50-state national market for low-cost catastrophic health care. part of the problem, every time politicians say that every health plan must include the following bills and whistles and they give away all the stuff, it has the inevitable effect of driving the cost of health insurance for everybody. and one of the biggest reasons so many people in texas and nationally don't have health insurance is because it is so expensive. if we had a 250-state national market with low-cost catastrophic care, that would expand access. chris so buying across state line
it is fundamentally different from the approach of president obama. i think health care reform should expand markets, expand competition and empower consumers and patients and disempower government bureaucrats from second- guessing the decisions that are made between a patient and a doctor. what does that mean specifically? the three reforms a think would be most important would be, number one, allowing people to purchase health insurance across state lines. why is that? because that would...
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the census was carried by 410,000 votes for president obama. new hampshire win for obama by 68,000. a smaller number, but smaller state. fewer votes to pick up. i will let for obama by 136,000 votes and colorado went for one by 130,000. i told those up because the total up to about 2 million. for mitt romney to win the presidency he has to change about 0 million mines. he has to take 2 million of those voters in change and million of their minds. actually ferlies do. a very small number. do you realize that the campaign will spend approximately $2 billion on each side, more than $2,000 per vote will be spent. into those campaigns -- and three other states matter a little bit. michigan, nevada, and mexico. if they come on for its home state son romney, the election is over. nevada, new mexico, very difficult to imagine going for romney at this point. it might go in a landslide. at the they will, but that's not where you bet the farm. here's how you get to the romney 270. he is going to win florida, and i know you follow the polls, some of you do. it says it neck-and-neck. the head ba
the census was carried by 410,000 votes for president obama. new hampshire win for obama by 68,000. a smaller number, but smaller state. fewer votes to pick up. i will let for obama by 136,000 votes and colorado went for one by 130,000. i told those up because the total up to about 2 million. for mitt romney to win the presidency he has to change about 0 million mines. he has to take 2 million of those voters in change and million of their minds. actually ferlies do. a very small number. do you...
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i'm voting for obama. and janic says it will not be obama and romney it will be obama coordinating with the media attack in romney for hours. the candidate of dallas texas, independent collar. what is your take? >> caller: its come line restricted as an independent thinker, and my thought is i'm going to watch the debate probably when i get off of work, but my thought is this: when is the country going to wake up and start losing american lives and the whole middle east is ridiculous. it is in worse shape than it was ten years ago, and $3 trillion in debt and each side points to the other guy. they did it or they caused it. the democrats were in control for four years. two of them under busheir number obama. was bush's responsibility and nobody takes responsibility to the that is the problem coming and the voters need to take responsibility and get rid of every one of the incumbents. it might not be in this election but if they don't get this country straightened out, and get the economy straightened out,
i'm voting for obama. and janic says it will not be obama and romney it will be obama coordinating with the media attack in romney for hours. the candidate of dallas texas, independent collar. what is your take? >> caller: its come line restricted as an independent thinker, and my thought is i'm going to watch the debate probably when i get off of work, but my thought is this: when is the country going to wake up and start losing american lives and the whole middle east is ridiculous. it...
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could gary johnson help obama get a second term? >> guest: well, in four states they have actually put this question. in new mexico and in colorado, i take more votes away from obama in north carolina and michigan, i take more votes away from romney. i'll just say i think a wasted vote is voting for somebody you don't believe in. that's a wasted vote. and i want to make a pitch here this morning. i want to make a pitch that everybody go out and waste their vote on me, gary johnson, and you know what? i'm the next president of the united states. and based on my resume, there is nothing to suggest that not only can i do this job but i would do a really good job at it. >> host: next call, richard from new york. thank you for waiting. you're on with gary johnson. >> caller: i appreciate what you did with the one debate we mentioned, ron paul there. you and him should have been a good team. the only other choice we have besides ron paul is you. i talked to ron paul on this program before -- down in tampa. but you know? they say the lesse
could gary johnson help obama get a second term? >> guest: well, in four states they have actually put this question. in new mexico and in colorado, i take more votes away from obama in north carolina and michigan, i take more votes away from romney. i'll just say i think a wasted vote is voting for somebody you don't believe in. that's a wasted vote. and i want to make a pitch here this morning. i want to make a pitch that everybody go out and waste their vote on me, gary johnson, and...
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rick ginsburg is a great fan of president obama, and i do think that she will leave probably in obama's third year. she is 79 years old. she often says she wants to serve until she is 82 years old. that is one her idol served until. you know, she's a human being. she is a widow. she loves what she does and she's got it and she has the brains and the health to do it. she is particularly enamored of her new colleague, elena kagan, and her choice is to be the singer liberal on the supreme court,. >> so i think that she is going to be okay. [laughter] if obama is reelected and it is looking that way, i was not pandering, but i was making another one of our excellent productions. i don't think any of the conservatives will leave voluntarily. that is starting to be a pretty old court in justice kennedy and justice leah -- they are both 70 sixer sold. you know, you don't always get choice. i think that if romney wins, ruth bader ginsburg will try to hold on for the next four years. if obama wins, kennedy and scalia will try to hold on, but you never know what'll happen. >> can you speculate wh
rick ginsburg is a great fan of president obama, and i do think that she will leave probably in obama's third year. she is 79 years old. she often says she wants to serve until she is 82 years old. that is one her idol served until. you know, she's a human being. she is a widow. she loves what she does and she's got it and she has the brains and the health to do it. she is particularly enamored of her new colleague, elena kagan, and her choice is to be the singer liberal on the supreme court,....
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why does obama have the lead he does? why is from the having difficulty, and what many people argue should be the core limping along economy and a president that has done so much as the defense and its face it popular at the beginning like the health care reform act and so long, the stimulus looked upon unfavorably by a lot of voters because even though many have felt the economy come back from cataclysmic tester it didn't exactly turn into a picture of health and voters tend to be unforgiving on things like that. what's going on? the first factor is the economy. it's not great now, but it's better than it used to be and i think we are beginning to get the sense that voters are getting credit for how much things have improved relative to a disastrous economic situation in the first year. voters can remember a few years back there some political scientist who maintained they can't remember what they had for breakfast and basically they just voted what's happening. i think we see in fact there is an influence of where it we
why does obama have the lead he does? why is from the having difficulty, and what many people argue should be the core limping along economy and a president that has done so much as the defense and its face it popular at the beginning like the health care reform act and so long, the stimulus looked upon unfavorably by a lot of voters because even though many have felt the economy come back from cataclysmic tester it didn't exactly turn into a picture of health and voters tend to be unforgiving...
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ruth ginsburg is a great fan of president obama, and i do think she will leave probably in obama's third year. she is 79. she is often said she wants to search use 82 because that's when louis brandeis, her idol, served until. not funny, that's true. and some people ask why didn't she quit earlier to make sure that obama bashing she's a human being. and she's a widow. and she loves what she does and she's good at it. she's got the brains and the health did it. she's particularly and members of for new college, elena kagan. and her choice is to be the senior liberal on the supreme court, or go sit by herself in her apartment near watergate. what would you do? [laughter] so i think she's going to stay. now, if obama is reelected, and it's looking that way, i don't think, i don't, i was not pandering. just making another one of my actual predictions. [laughter] -- excellent predictions. i don't think any of the conservatives will leave voluntarily. but it started to be a pretty old court. justice kennedy and scalia are both 76. you know, do the math. you don't always get a choice of when yo
ruth ginsburg is a great fan of president obama, and i do think she will leave probably in obama's third year. she is 79. she is often said she wants to search use 82 because that's when louis brandeis, her idol, served until. not funny, that's true. and some people ask why didn't she quit earlier to make sure that obama bashing she's a human being. and she's a widow. and she loves what she does and she's good at it. she's got the brains and the health did it. she's particularly and members of...
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i think when i look at the history of the issue, it goes back to the election of the president obama and the real energy he brought on the campaign trail in 2008 to the question of transparency and the kind of government i think we all envision. from my perspective by about 2010, that energy had kind of dissipated and a lot of efforts have gone toward a lot of things and we were not seeing that sort of dramatic transformation that a lot of us could visualize. we could imagine knowing what the power of data is but it wasn't happening very much. that caused me to do some work that i will describe here that resulted in some grades that i talked about. grading is a cruel art but sometimes it's a necessary art to communicate things. what i did was i looked at the problem of sort of lacking transparency efforts around 2010. it looked to me like maybe the transparency community hadn't communicated well enough to the government decide what side what it was we wanted to go a lot of efforts have gone out there that didn't really have a direction the direction or a destination and so i sat down
i think when i look at the history of the issue, it goes back to the election of the president obama and the real energy he brought on the campaign trail in 2008 to the question of transparency and the kind of government i think we all envision. from my perspective by about 2010, that energy had kind of dissipated and a lot of efforts have gone toward a lot of things and we were not seeing that sort of dramatic transformation that a lot of us could visualize. we could imagine knowing what the...
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president obama will make remarks there at 12:10 eastern. you will able to see live coverage of that on c-span. later today retired generals an admirals will discuss the effect on childhood obesity on national security. we hear about a new report improving the quality of food sold in schools. to teach kids to eat healthy meals and snacks. .. in court ruled on president obama's health care law. what is it? explain? >> guest: we file an action in january of 2011. within two weekly filed a separate action from the proceedings in florida. virginia enacted 28 states and the focus of our original lawsuit was about the constitutionality of the law in its totality. as related to the commerce clause, the individual mandate and began litigation and filed from the government. and to the supreme court, after the decision in june this year i filed a motion to lift the stage to the eastern district of federal courts asking judge white to consider an amendment to the complaint and the original challenge about constitutionality of the law this is about impl
president obama will make remarks there at 12:10 eastern. you will able to see live coverage of that on c-span. later today retired generals an admirals will discuss the effect on childhood obesity on national security. we hear about a new report improving the quality of food sold in schools. to teach kids to eat healthy meals and snacks. .. in court ruled on president obama's health care law. what is it? explain? >> guest: we file an action in january of 2011. within two weekly filed a...
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look at what the obama administration is doing. it is not that different. not that different than many other ways that the bush administration did throughout the two terms, especially at the end. given that there is not consensus, that is one of the reasons that this is not an issue with the campaign, but i think it is also why things are a little bit more contingent in the national security act. >> thank you. >> any prediction for retirement at the end of the term? >> it depends on who the next president ends. obviously we have several justices who are getting older, but i think most of them would feel that if they were voluntarily retiring and not forced to do so by health concerns or some other extenuating circumstances, the honorable thing to do is retiring during the term that pointed you in the first place. so you could see justice ginsburg, now that she was accomplished, she was trying to make a record for how long she stayed on the court in 2014. you might see justice scalia or justice kennedy retire under mitt romney. it makes a huge potential shif
look at what the obama administration is doing. it is not that different. not that different than many other ways that the bush administration did throughout the two terms, especially at the end. given that there is not consensus, that is one of the reasons that this is not an issue with the campaign, but i think it is also why things are a little bit more contingent in the national security act. >> thank you. >> any prediction for retirement at the end of the term? >> it...
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the obama campaign. they talked about a secret money during the ama. obama talked about super -- secret super pacs money, and allow the press coverage has also may not make distinctions in terminology and in meaning. do you think that politicians and the press corps should be held to a higher level and that? do you see hope that, you know, the fact checking of those terms will be happening or is this the definition of a word that was coined, just shifting of the debate? >> well, i think it is obviously important to distinguish between the two. in part because if you don't distinguish between the two and make a point of saying, you know, more than half the spending or however much it is is coming from groups that don't disclose their donors. the demand for disclosure is not going to grow, and we are not going to be able to get anything out of the policy-makers in terms of greater transparency in the system. >> but. >> point about a different kind of labeling. journalism, as it was covering the primaries d
the obama campaign. they talked about a secret money during the ama. obama talked about super -- secret super pacs money, and allow the press coverage has also may not make distinctions in terminology and in meaning. do you think that politicians and the press corps should be held to a higher level and that? do you see hope that, you know, the fact checking of those terms will be happening or is this the definition of a word that was coined, just shifting of the debate? >> well, i think...
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. >> next wednesday, street, mitt romney and obama meet in the first presidential debate. moderated by jim lehrer from the university of denver. the debate at 9:00 p.m. and after the debate, your reactions, calls, e-mails and tweets. call us on c-span radio and online at c-span.org. >> this panel discusses the high school graduation rates. this is approximately one-hour. >> good morning. [inaudible] we all form together a governing advisory council. the guidance anticipation of that council has for about provided a wide range of experience, viewpoints and expertise, and gives the hamilton project a pragmatic and very special perspective on policy issues. we conducted extensive outreach to the government and the media. our events involve policy papers as indicates today, they are subject to rigorous review. we believe that the objectives of economic policy should be growth, widespread increases in income, and economic security is also the least that all of these objectives reinforce each other. we also believe in market-based economics, and equally in a strong government to
. >> next wednesday, street, mitt romney and obama meet in the first presidential debate. moderated by jim lehrer from the university of denver. the debate at 9:00 p.m. and after the debate, your reactions, calls, e-mails and tweets. call us on c-span radio and online at c-span.org. >> this panel discusses the high school graduation rates. this is approximately one-hour. >> good morning. [inaudible] we all form together a governing advisory council. the guidance anticipation...
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you and bob had to con for -- convince president obama that candidate obama said about the mandate was incorrect and the second irony was -- think tanks in the '90s as a market base way to extend coverage. so given those two ironies as you saw not just from the evolution, but you literally in n the white house during the oral argument. how did the process play out? >> i think it's a good point. it's possible only in washington, d.c., that you can have a situation where conservatives and republicans come up with an idea, democrats then embrace it and republicans say that's a horrible idea. it just ludicrous. as you correctly point out the history is that the individual mandate was the developed conceptionly by one of my colleagues now, mark from the university of -- and the heritage foundation as a alternative to the employer mandate. they didn't like that. and we, you know, embraced it, had a certain advantages. obviously had had been run in massachusetts and shown to be successful in getting the exchange up. reducing what bob pointed out adverse selection allows you to have something
you and bob had to con for -- convince president obama that candidate obama said about the mandate was incorrect and the second irony was -- think tanks in the '90s as a market base way to extend coverage. so given those two ironies as you saw not just from the evolution, but you literally in n the white house during the oral argument. how did the process play out? >> i think it's a good point. it's possible only in washington, d.c., that you can have a situation where conservatives and...
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i would call them the bush-obama tax rates. president obama also extended them. >> moderator: except for last level? guinta: i extended all of them. he wants to keep four and let two lapse. here is what ernst & young if that occurs. ernst & young issued a report said said you will see gdp growth from 1.9 which is anemic today, down to 1.3. you will see a million jobs across the country. you will see according to the president's numbers $70 billion in revenue a year to the federal government. i ask the question, tell me if you get your tax hikes what that $70 billion would do in the context after $1.1 trillion deficit because it doesn't solve the problem? this is used as political ad that republicans want to support the wealthy. but there is no solution from the other side of the aisle on what you would do next because 70 billion does not solve the problem. shea-porter: okay. well, let me first say i'm glad he is talking about these numbers. you have been there two years. granted not many days, about six days a month of you have
i would call them the bush-obama tax rates. president obama also extended them. >> moderator: except for last level? guinta: i extended all of them. he wants to keep four and let two lapse. here is what ernst & young if that occurs. ernst & young issued a report said said you will see gdp growth from 1.9 which is anemic today, down to 1.3. you will see a million jobs across the country. you will see according to the president's numbers $70 billion in revenue a year to the federal...
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do you think the obama situation could have handled better before or after the attack? >> i don't know the details. we have to study it. i'm sure the answer to the question is yes. when something goes wrong, there's always something you could have done better. whiffs governor, but -- when i was governor, by darkest actually was april 2007, a shooting in virginia tech, the worst crime in the history of the state. i landed in japan on a trade mission, and i got back on, flew back, and i dealt with grieving family members in the community, and what i said from day one is we're going to put in place a panel of people with a broad expertise with no connection to virginia tech, and we'll have them turn it upside down to determine everything that could have been done different to minimize the chance that anything like that happens again. we can't prevent it, but we can minimize that chance. we found a lot of things that could have been done better. things that might have happened at any college campus, but it required us to make significant changes to the menial health laws, s
do you think the obama situation could have handled better before or after the attack? >> i don't know the details. we have to study it. i'm sure the answer to the question is yes. when something goes wrong, there's always something you could have done better. whiffs governor, but -- when i was governor, by darkest actually was april 2007, a shooting in virginia tech, the worst crime in the history of the state. i landed in japan on a trade mission, and i got back on, flew back, and i...